Dec 3, 2022 • 56M

Explorations in Gifted Diversity

Join hosts Emma Nicholson and Chris Wells for Episode 23 with Jennifer Harvey Sallin

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What can be positive about disintegration? Join us for an exploration of positive disintegration through conversation and shared stories. It’s a framework for understanding a variety of intense experiences that often look and feel like mental illness, but which can also be viewed as building blocks for creating an authentic personality.

In episode 23, Chris and Emma were joined by psychologist Jennifer Harvey Sallin, founder of InterGifted, a worldwide community and support organization for gifted adults. This conversation is a celebration of gifted diversity in adulthood! We talked about what giftedness can look like in adults, how it manifests, and the great range of diversity within giftedness. Jen shared her model of giftedness with us, which describes the areas of giftedness, and shows how everyone’s ‘gifted profile’ can look different.

What is success, and what does it mean in today's commercial context? Jen described being a generalist or “multipotentialite,” and going against the normal expectations society might have for gifted people and their careers. We discussed the beauty of doing things that bring meaning to you and trying many things in life, as opposed to being a “specialist” or trying to conform to what others think success should mean.

We addressed considerations for therapists, clinicians, and coaches when working with the gifted. Jen shared the story of creating InterGifted and filling the need for an international community in this population. She is one of the few people in the world who provide training for clinicians and coaches working with the gifted, and we talked about that work as well.

Resources mentioned in this episode

InterGifted website

Rediscovering Yourself (Jen’s website)

Gifted Psychology 101

Daniels & Piechowski’s book Living With Intensity

High, Exceptional, and Profound Giftedness (Chris mentioned this link around the 11-minute mark)

Chris joined Jen on her podcast Conversations on Gifted Trauma

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